The battle between the governor of Lor and the governor of Kurdistan
In the year 1046 Haq Khan Ahmed Ardalan, the governor of Kurdistan, rebelled against the central government and Shah Safi (Safavid king) To Shahvardi Khan Mir, governor of Lorestan(Peshtkoh and Pishkoh) He ordered to move at the head of his local forces to suppress Khan Ahmad. [1]
In the battle that took place between the forces of Shahvardi Khan Mir, the ruler of Lor Kuchach and Siavash Bey Qollar Agassi with the forces under the command of the governor of Kurdistan, as a result, Khan Ahmad Khan, the governor of the Kurds, suffered a severe defeat and took refuge in Oraman Castle.. Oraman Castle was besieged by the forces of Shahvardi Khan Lor and after some time Khan Ahmad Khan managed to escape and about five hundred of his companions were killed.. [2]
After this escape, he sought refuge with one of the Kurdish commanders of Mosul, nicknamed Ahmad. Koch Ahmad Khan, the ruler of Mosul, provided 1,500 Kurdish youths and Ottoman soldiers at his disposal, and Khan Ahmad Khan, the governor of Kurdistan, entered the war against Mir Shahvardi Khan Lor with the forces he brought with him. In this war, many of Khan Ahmad's troops They were killed or fled. After another defeat that Shahvardi Khan inflicted on the troops of Khan Ahmad Khan, he was forced to go again to the governor of Mosul, Ahmad Khan.. And for the third time, together with Kochach Ahmad Khan, the governor of Mosul and Mardin, he rushed with more forces to confront the forces of the central government of Iran, which were led by Shahvardi Khan Lor, Abbasi and Siavash Beg Qollar Agassi. Another battle broke out between the two corps and the corps Khan Ahmad Khan and the opposition were defeated again and Kurdistan was captured by the forces of the Safavid government under the command of Shahvardi Khan Lor and Khan Ahmad Khan Ardalan in the same year. 1046 He died due to illness. [3]
References:
1- Ali Akbar, Kurdistan chronicler, History of Kurdistan or Hadiqeh Naseri (Tehran: Amir Kabir 1364) p. 138
2- Khajagi Esfahani, p 237- 236 And the Kurdistan chronicler p 138
3- Mehdi Mehrabi, Land of Ler, 1993
Hello to all my friends, I have read all your comments. Unfortunately, most of the comments are based on ethnic and tribal prejudices rather than facts.
I have been talking about racial and cultural roots for about 10 years … I researched the Kurds, the Lers and the Bakhtiaris, and I lived among the Bakhtiaris and the Lers for a while for education or military service.. What I have found after many studies and investigations is that neither the Lers are Kurds, neither the Kurds are Lers, nor the Bakhtiaris, nor is there any basis for your argument.. The fact is that the Medes, as the first Iranian people, came to the land that today is home to the Kurds in Iran and other Middle Eastern countries such as northern Iraq and Syria, southern Turkey and western Iran, as well as the modern homeland of the Lors, Leks, and Bakhtiaris from the old Azarabad settlements to the vicinity of Fars province. They migrated and settled today. The evidence shows that the primary language and culture of all of these were the same and that some common words remained, such as Kor ( Boy) and man or man (Man) And many other words among these tribes as well as similar music and dance prove this. With the passage of time and many events such as wars that took place over the course of several thousand years, slowly, in terms of accent and some other customs, more or less differences between different parts of this great nation appeared, the biggest of which is the tendency of the dialect of the people of Azerbaijan towards It was Turkish that these people, while they were of Iranian and Median origin, their language changed to Turkish under the domination of numerous Turkish dynasties and forced separation from their original ethnicity.. For example, if you pay attention to Lori Khorramabadi accent, you can see a lot of commonalities in it with South Kurdish, but it seems that there is a lot of desire to become Persian in it, and the great interest of these two groups of people in Kurdish and Lori music. shows. Laki accent is something between these two types of dialects.
In general, in my opinion, Kurds, Lers, Bakhtiaris, Leks, and even Azeris came to the same dialect, dress, and culture a few thousand years ago. … have been and today they have distanced themselves to such a degree that some names of cities like Kurd Shahr or Abhar( Any water or water mill) It proves this. This is my opinion and I express it without prejudice.
That stupid donkey who said according to some writer, Bakhtiaris are Kurds from Kermanj and came from the mountains of Sham, please take your head out of your mouth, maybe you learned something, the closest Farsi dialect to Avesta is Lori Bakhtiari dialect, the only people in Iran whose words The people of Tajikistan have a lot in common with the Tajik language, the people of Ler and the Bakhtiari dialect. In Takht Jamshid, sometimes they set up buffets and sell small booklets that translate Achaemenid inscriptions and stone inscriptions into Persian Pahlavi, the modern Persian language, and English. I am Bakhtiari, when I read the Pahlavi Persian translation, 90% of the words were Lori Bakhtiari, the birthplace of Cyrus the Great was in Bardi Indika Castle, the place of Cyrus's rule, and what happened before in Parsumash or Suleiman Mosque today, which still has temples and remains of their palaces and thousands of tombs and tombs. And the tumulus and the Achaemenid, Parthian and Sassanid cemeteries that are still there after the fall of Astyak the Mede, the grandfather of Cyrus, and the unification of the whole of Iran, went to Merovdasht and built Persepolis, the ancient language and customs of Bakhtiari and the ancient and ancient words that are now Even the urban people of Bakhtiari use it in their daily language, and it is 100% authentic, ancient Persian, more than seventy generations old, you are the one who doesn't know the name of your grandfather's father. They know from whom and which family and clan they have their roots from ten generations ago, then you allow yourself to comment on Bakhtiari's past in a rootless and baseless installation???!!!!!
Hello, I am Lek Lor from Bushehr, Lors are from Pars. And Ler's eldest children are Mamseni Fili and Bakhtiari, the eldest son of Ler, and in Bakhtiari there is a Habi clan of four Langs and seven Langs and the Lors of Khorramabadi.. The top spot on the neck of Kalhor and .. There are many of them that I don't have the time to mention, and the Kurdish people are also Mad, Kermanji and Sanandji, and there are a few of them, and then these are Aryans and they are not different from each other in any way. They are just brothers. A friend came and said that the Bakhtiari are Kermanji. At the time, it was a small clan, that is, a small clan in Khuzestan and modern Fars province, and then it was Cyrus the Great Bakhtiari and during the Sassanid era.. Lor Khorramabadi and Lor Bakhtiari of the Sasanian army in Khuzestan. during the attack on the Arabs. And long live the mirror of the true story of Iran ♥️ we are all brothers and equal and new, Ler people and Kurdish people, they are not like Turks or Arabs, Turks are like Aryans, maybe you understand what I am saying
Shahvardi Khan Fili, the second governor of Ler, the son of Hossein Khan Fili
According to the writings of Hamdullah Mostofi, the Bakhtiaris are Kermanj Kurds who came from Jebel al-Sarq in Syria
Read Lady Bishop's biography, until 150 years ago, the Bakhtiaris were considered to be non-Iranians.
In our Lorestan province, leks are like lers and are part of lers.
In any case, Ler and Kurd are the closest relatives to each other, but they also have differences.
Lors are always devoted to their country and are kind, pure-hearted and country-loving
All the researchers know that Lor and Kurds are separated from each other in terms of genetics and language, then a bunch of ignorant people who are only a source of shame for the Kurdish people and Iran say these ignorant things in order to create enmity. In general, we are all Iranians, but if anyone wants to Let him say these things that Lor has included or vice versa, or he is an ignorant person or a hypocrite and anti-Iran.
We are all Iranians… First of all, who is the researcher in your opinion? Secondly, on what account do you make such a claim? Soma, with what conscience do you call anyone you see a hypocrite, which is an insult? Baog Tunish and Nao Khangd
Ler and Lek are among the people of Ler. Ler and Lek are not Kurds at all. The Leks are considered Kurds because their language is mixed with the Kurds.
You are completely wrong, the Laks are much older and even the wife of Cyrus the Great was a Lak-speaking and her son Prince Kambojie was born in the current city of Helilan. The provinces of Lorestan from Hamedan to Kermanshah and even more talk with it, they are actually Laki
No, dad, help me, other than stains?
Many unbiased and foreign sources including Pollock . If you want to compare the Lori dialect, it will be included under the Leki group. If you mix Laki with Farsi, Lori will be created. .
In terms of words, Leki has many similarities with the Avestan language, but Leki means 100, which falls under the branch of Ler
Kermanshah is not a stain
Read the book Majamal al-Tawarikh Golestaneh to understand that the city of Kermanshah was built by the Laks. Right now, the eastern and southeastern villages of the city of Kermanshah are Laks. In addition, Kalhor and Zanganeh provinces are considered Laks in all historical documents. In general terms, Kermanshah province is 90% Laks.
In all the sources he mentioned, it does not give the meaning of today's ethnic group and only in the sense of a shepherd and herdsman. Unfortunately, today the Lors are not jealous of their culture and land. They bring Kurdish dancing groups to their weddings, especially the Lors of Lak, or in Khuzestan Arabs are buying land. There are hilars
Unfortunately, due to lack of knowledge and illiteracy, and of course the propaganda of the Pankords inside and outside the border, the Laks and some Lors of Ilam have become inclined towards Kurdish culture, while the culture of the Lors is much richer than that of the Kurds, and even the Lors throughout history were able to establish governments such as Atabakan Lor, kingdoms. Zand, and form a constitution that would cause the fall of the Qajar dynasty, which the Kurds could not do throughout history
The Kurds had an empire called the Medes, another one called the Sassanids, and another called the Ayyubids.(the founder:Saladin Kurdi)It happened that Ler and you didn't have them
Well, my dear, who said that the rule of the Medes and the Sassanids were stupid, from their speech to their clothes? Now, where did it come from?
In the Shahnameh, it is said that Kaveh Ahangar is a Kurdish race, where did you get this from?… They say that the women are Kurds, you say they are Ler? You are Elamites. It has been said in history that the Goths are the same Kurds as the Kasis, Hori, Lulobi and people from Europe.… They came together to become one and form a Madhu Tempura that later the names of all these people were put together.
Kurds from Mad
And Bakhtiaris or Lors are from Pars
Why are you so interested in attaching yourself to the Kurds and what they have in common? … hit??? While they don't have this spirit and opinion as much as you do
It's like saying that Iranians are also Afghans, because the language is close to each other and commonalities … have
An Iranian is an Iranian and an Afghan is an Afghan
With race and shape and … different
A Kurd is also a Kurd and Ler is also Ler
with race and … different
One of the Medes and the other of the Persians
Kurds can never deny that they are Iranian, and the lands they live in are part of Iran's soil and an inseparable part of Iran.
Peace
Since when did the Sassanians become Kurds 😂😂😂😂
یه زندیه معذرت و یک چیز دیگه ساسانی از کی کرد بوده؟
It means that he is not a shepherd or a tent dweller. After Islam, the Kurdish name came in the form of Akrad, but Akrad does not mean shepherd, because in the Arabic language, shepherd and herd are Kurdish.
I have nothing to do with the incident, but fratricide has never been praised. We ourselves know how much we have in common with the Kurds.
The Kurdish historians themselves write, not Wikipedia, with three documentary books written by the Kurdistanis themselves, they still tell lies, and the Volks have an unbreakable national and patriotic character because even a Sunni sect, which of course are our brothers, is not a Lurk or a Lek, the Ottoman rule is most of the territory. The Kurds formed in the north, even though they were Iranians, they became the puppets of the Ottomans, and even now they are the blood enemies of Turkey. Because they are Iranians, they do not forget the Arabs or the Arabs, but these dear and brotherly people have always paved the way for perversion and separatism, which is a red line. We are lers and volks
Some people are claiming authenticity by falsifying history, but Lor does not need to be proven, Iran's authenticity is proven with Lor, long live its children.
Recently, some people of unoriginal and immigrant origin are attaching Ler's celebrities to themselves, damn this confusion and humiliation.
I am proud of the fact that Ler has such a great background and that his rebellious head has been rubbed on the ground
Ler are brothers with the Kurds.. but the Lers were the only people who defeated the Mongols with bare hands..
If it is about fighting, the Laks also resisted the Arabs for five hundred years
His brother is the same as Lek from Laurel
Maybe it's because of the stain
But it is not a stain
Lek ta bielr bien nmzonm ara i kurdl i nom insta jori wanmode men kelk ler niye wali kl wlat iran bzonin nmtiinin lkin kestin ler hasaw mo kurd bushin
Why are you napping texts, my dear?…
First, the general did not go to war with the governor of Kurdistan….
Second, the Safavid government was defeated by the governor of Kurdistan and they united with the army of Kaliler and attacked and were able to defeat them unfortunately, and they were on a high ground and the Kurds were on the ground without a trench.????
You are just napping….
Lerham itself is a tribe of Kurds…
Lor is a clan of Akrad and Lek is a separate issue…..
Why are you talking nonsense when you don't know anything? Lers are from the Kasi race and Kurds are from Madh. When the Kasi entered Iran, there were no Kurds at all. Why are you talking nonsense? Lers are separated from Kurds.
The main origin of Lori is Aryan, Lori are mixed with other races like all the people and tribes of Iran, but they have their Aryan roots which are the customs and most importantly the Lori language which is a continuation of Sasanian Pahlavi language which once had many speakers throughout Iran.
Lors are a tribe of Kurds, please read better and more
It is known from the age of the Lers that the baseless words of the Lers are Kasi and the Kurds are Aryans, the Lers were in Iran before the Aryans, so don't talk.
If you have read the history, you won't be talking about Kurds and Leks.
The Lors, as the Elamite people who were Kassites, which includes Khuzestan and a part of Ilam and Lorestan, which date back three thousand years before Christ,
The Kurds are from the Medes, the last king of the Medes was Astyages, the uncle of Cyrus the Great, who was destroyed by Cyrus, and the Parthians, who were in the region of Khorasan and Fars, formed the Achaemenid dynasty. India and Europe are also of Aryan race. Greetings to all the nations of the world
valves?
Shirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Ler is an independent and separate ethnic group
Uncle Jon, the way you talk says that you are 15 years old, go write your homework, sleep, I will sacrifice you, and you don't need to tell me about your own history, which is screaming in museums.
What is special???!!!!
What are you saying?!!!!
May God heal you
Does that mean Chi Lor is a tribe of Kurds?
The lers were separate and before the Kurds
You came later, otherwise we would have been in trouble
We are for ourselves
We are Ler and we are not connected anywhere and we were not subordinate to anyone
Ima Lrya ar wa ik united boyim dunyanam ft mikim
Payar bo Loristan Fili Me Khom Lrikm Azh Taif Shahurdi
The government of the governors
After the extinction of Lorestan's Solar Atabak dynasty by Shah Abbas Safavi and the death of the last Atabak "Shahvardi Khan" by the Simre River, the government of Lorestan was transferred to the governors, and Hossein Khan, who was from the Selvizi clan, was the first governor of Lorestan "Pishkoh and Peshtkoh". takes in hand [ ۱ ]
?Descendants of Hossein Khan from 1006 to 1308 in Peshkoh and Peshtkoh regions (Current Lorestan and Ilam) They ruled and the last of them was Gholamreza Khan, the governor of Pashtkou, of course, other governors ruled in the Lorestan regions, but the last powerful governor, Gholamreza Khan, the governor of Pashtkou, was from this clan..
?The governors of Lorestan ruled in Lorestan and Ilam for a long time, but finally during the time of Hasan Khan, due to some reasons, their rule was separated into two regions: Pishkoh "Lorestan" and Peshtkoh "Ilam" and the governors' rule was limited to Peshtkoh. (Ilam) When the governors were ruling over the entire regions of Lorestan and Ilam, the center of their government was in Falak-ul-Aflak Castle in Khorramabad city, then the seat of their government was moved to Pushtkoh and the center of their government was moved to the current city of Ilam. [ ۲ ]
With the establishment of the dynasty of Lorestan governors, the northern Lor areas became known as Lorestan Fili because the governors were from Fili.
The many tribes of Fili are part of the Lore family and live in the mountainous regions of Turkey, Syria and Iran. ( Schoberl, p. 20 )
The elephants are from the elements of Lek and from the sub-branches of Lors (Curzon, second volume, pp. 269-270)، [ ۳ ]
?References ….
۱- Historical geography and history of Lorestan / Dr. Manouchehr Sotoudeh and Ali Mohammad Saki / P. 321
۲- History of the land of Elam / Compiled by Nasser Rad / P. 191
۳- Anthropology of Iran / Henry Field / Translated by Abdullah Faryar.
It's true that the power of the lers is exemplary, evil evil to the Bakhtiaris
Why do you separate Ler and Bakhtiari? Bakhtiari is one of the main tribes of the great Lere tribe. Today, everyone wants to divide Ler, one is the Bakhtiari, the other is the Lek.
Hello, yes, brother, this pain in our hearts is also Ilami, the real name of Ilam is Lorestan Pashtkohe, 80 years old, which was changed to Ilam by Reza Shah to reduce at least one city from the enmity of the Lors with himself, and they are calling our name in the circle of Kurds, and they all believe that Ilam is the name of Ilam, when everyone is Lor. Our language is our own clan, we all speak Lori, we give our name, Kalhorkord, Ilam, Lorestan, Bakhtiari, we are all one tribe, we spread out in these areas, now in Dehlran, Ilam, which is its name. The provincial government communicates and introduces Ilam to the Kurds. I don't know why the security agencies are idle and have nothing to do with Ilam Radio and Television, which are all advertising for the Kurds who have the talent for separatism.
?Don't say, Momin, I myself am my grandfather, who belonged to one hundred and five years ago, he considered himself Kurdish, he must have learned this truth from his father and his father from his grandfather.?
What are you saying? My heart is sore, it has a stain .. If you are an authentic Elamite, then don't talk about ugly Kurds. You are Kurds. They are Kurds from Kermanshahs.
No Elamites have such heartache, the clothes of the people, the language of the people, the people, the people, the ancestors of the people, the clothes of the people in the 4-year war, the poems of the great and prominent Elamite poets, none of them say such things, where did you see that the Kurdish people do not have divisions, only according to the privacy of the countries of Iran, Iraq, and Syria And Turkey is fascist like Rojava(Sunrise) For Kordan Iran and Rozhelat (Sunset) For Syrian Kurdan… Your name also tells about you and your instincts… Dehlrani, as you said, was inhabited by Arabs in the old days, after the migration of several Ler clans and the formation of Leran, named after the people of Mime, and the Kurdli and Naserali clans are among the most authentic Kurdish clans in the world.… I would also like to offer you a service to Kalhari: Bawgd and Naw Qngd…
8 year war… (Typographical error)
What does this have to do with the division of ethnic groups in Iran, it is mostly done on the Kurds, secondly, the division of ethnic groups has not existed for three or four years, and now you are saying that they are brainwashed, they call themselves Kurds, they are dividing themselves, there is no doubt that the division of ethnic groups had not started yet, these people are Kurds. and will be
Dear, the number of Kurds in Ilam is large, the people live in the Shahr valley, our clothes are Kurdish, and our language is Kurdish
Of course, Wikipedia has written about the war of the governor of Lorestan against the Ardalans, citing numerous sources, that the governor of Lorestan attacked Halokhan Ardalan with the order of Shah Abbas Safi and was defeated.. After that, Shah Abbas, who could not handle Halokhan, arranged his sister in marriage with his son and attracted his opinion..
Wikipedia sources are all manipulated ? Ah, Shah Abbasi who defeated the army of the Ottoman Empire. The Uzbeks and the Oranges, who were one of the great powers of the world . Unfortunately, Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia and anyone can write or change anything, and since it is not an important article, it is not followed much.
So, apparently, you have not known the Kurdish people yet…
Of course, in the end, Shahvardi Khan was killed by Shah Abbas Safavi
And that a handful of separatists and divisives are found, whose whole motivation is to live a life of camel prejudices and create division.… See how they fell to the Kurdish province of Ilam… They removed the stains of our sweet tongue and our beloved by brainwashing… Now to Malekshahi, Kalhor, Zanganeh and Khazal(Khazai) And Erkwazi and other clans and tribes of southern Rojava fell… Then below, they say that the sources are manipulated… This article is incomplete and full of bigoted exaggerations from the background and… It is paid biasedly. I am Kurd Khazal and I have a lot of friends. None of them are as wise as you. They are very good and first-class people. Dar Kurd, from Bushehr to the Mediterranean, there are no Kurdish people, there are a lot of people, the people of Zagros are very, very simple-hearted people, and unfortunately, throughout history, religious and tribal prejudices caused divisions and governments.… Zagros has oil, gas, rare species, and simple people… If this article was from Helu Khan Ardalan or Ali Qali Khan Ardalan, maybe the reactions would have been sharper and the opposite.… Contact Bzhi Kurd, Lor and Lak♥️?
I am proud to have a compatriot like you